tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3099843600141430373.post983492716388375705..comments2024-02-18T09:32:16.703-06:00Comments on The Semi-Retired Gamer: [Re-Posted & Expanded] Second Thoughts About Second EditionCharlie Warrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07899037807693796298noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3099843600141430373.post-5284867565120060472012-12-15T09:33:02.737-06:002012-12-15T09:33:02.737-06:00What is the point of playing 2E if all you are doi...What is the point of playing 2E if all you are doing is adding back 1E material? Why not just play 1E? <br /><br />The core of the rules is the same. It is just that 2E removes a lot of content, makes some minor tweaks, and needlessly adds non-weapon proficiencies. Given that post Gygax 1E products add in non-weapon proficiencies, you could still use 1E for those.<br /><br />In terms of changes to the rules in the core rule books (not omissions), that just leaves Bards, how you determine thief abilities, and specialist mages. Of those, the only change I thought was positive were the thief changes. Dariushttp://www.perilousjourneys.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3099843600141430373.post-63696465836551574302012-11-15T16:51:29.421-06:002012-11-15T16:51:29.421-06:00Interesting thoughts, Darius. I believe you prett...Interesting thoughts, Darius. I believe you pretty much nailed it. I will most likely get the core 5E because that has been standard practice for me with every new version of D&D throughout the years. I honestly don't think 5E is going to unify the fans any more than any other edition after AD&D; then there was still the D&D vs. AD&D split so it never really was unified.Charlie Warrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899037807693796298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3099843600141430373.post-59158596610463302862012-11-15T09:57:48.161-06:002012-11-15T09:57:48.161-06:00I don't understand the 2E reprint. Charlie is...I don't understand the 2E reprint. Charlie is right. It is just an over-moralizing stripped down version of AD&D if you stick with the core books. <br /><br />I think the real question is if this is for nostalgia, or marks a strategy change. You will never get all D&D players to play the same edition. So, the solution is to simply support all editions. The easiest way to do so is with the back catalog. They would eventually have out D&D (either box of book), AD&D, 2E, and 5E. 3E-4E would wait. They make a deal with rpgnow to permit physical printing of the support products. <br /><br />It just seems weird that if the goal is to support 5E and make it a unifying edition, you put out the older editions. This is either a desperate grasp for money, or the realization that the AD&D players are not going to play 5E in any great numbers so you have to find alternative ways of making money from those players. Dariushttp://www.perilousjourneys.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3099843600141430373.post-539886778303063132012-11-12T19:42:55.315-06:002012-11-12T19:42:55.315-06:00Actually, I believe they are in the $45 range. I ...Actually, I believe they are in the $45 range. I am hoping the binding is better on them because I remember people complaining about that. I hear Amazon will have then somewhere around $10 cheaper.Charlie Warrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899037807693796298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3099843600141430373.post-8915055437876323992012-11-12T19:20:44.983-06:002012-11-12T19:20:44.983-06:00That is all it is (in my humblest) - a mugging of ...That is all it is (in my humblest) - a mugging of the corpse of nostalgia. However... I have to imagine that these reprints must be cheaper than the ebay route. I haven't priced them, but as we speak there is an original AD&D 2e Players Handbook & Monstrous Manual combo for $45.00. A better copy of the MM alone goes for $34.99.<br /><br />Are these reprints priced accordingly?The Mayflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291942599248504928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3099843600141430373.post-48998287204818881552012-11-12T19:01:42.179-06:002012-11-12T19:01:42.179-06:00I hear what you are saying, Eric. My personal int...I hear what you are saying, Eric. My personal interest in the second edition reprint is for no other reason than to complete my collection. I have the urge to get the 3 core books from each edition and have been obtaining the ones I do not have.<br /><br />I have no disagreement with your comments at all. There is definitely a money grab going on in some ways. I do not believe that WOTC is doing this out of the kindness of their hearts!Charlie Warrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899037807693796298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3099843600141430373.post-75017047539042017542012-11-12T18:48:11.554-06:002012-11-12T18:48:11.554-06:00I have to admit to not quite understanding the hoo...I have to admit to not quite understanding the hoopla on these reprints. Unless, of course, how it symbolizes WotC's general greed.<br /><br />Every book known to man has been reprinted at least once. It is nice to see certain game publishers finally leaving their 15th century mentality.<br /><br />A primitive mentality, I might add, that was wholeheartedly endorsed by Mr. Gygax during the D&D vs. AD&D wars. The Mayflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291942599248504928noreply@blogger.com